Talk:Morning Star/@comment-43413727-20191107014410/@comment-38786604-20191107015307

You're complaining that glitches have been patched, and that you can't be bothered finding an actual setup? The Catalyzed Star can still be used as a minor multiplier (x5), even with The (Saturated) Catalyst. It's certainly not a bad item, but you shouldn't think of it as "how to get from s-1 to S+1 in an hour".

When compared to the Morning Star, the Catalyzed Star may have a slightly lower upgrade rate (by a mere x0.1), but the cap of NvD is the exact same and it doesn't require any specific life to obtain (you could obtain it on s-/S+2, if you're that lucky).

I can skip 3 per life at under 50 lives in about 90sec of waiting, and have got from life 3 (no sacrifice) to over 800 in only a few hours of grinding.

You must be terrible at Miner's Haven.